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Definition of WEIRD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQrTjbzbByA. Fearmongers is a negative description of people who warn others. I can understand that. The gifts that are talked about in the NT are not like a pack of pencils that are doled out 1 to each person. a) to seek to promote ones interests It has got to the point where I can hardly

I was familiar with sick people, having ministered to them for so many years. No, If Bill Johnston belongs to the Lord as I know that he does (I have been praying for him interceding for him I know that God has a plan for him in the USA) and you say that he doesnt and worse you say that he is a false prophet, a false teacher and a false evangelist (if thats what youre saying) when his heart is actually set on the Lord and to the best of his current knowledge he is serving the Lord if you say that when in reality he has been born of God, knows that Jesus is God and is his Lord then I believe this following scripture applies to you (and to anyone else who agrees with you), But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

He tells us to wait, to wait in our Jerusalem for the power from on high, for the spirits unction and then to go out. If a person is suffering, I would rejoice that their suffering is over. For instance, if God can stretch a leg out 1/2 or so, why not find an amputee and in the name of Jesus command the limb to grow back? Never! Jesus said Greater things would we do after He went to be with His father. I do not consider any of the miracles Jesus did in any way wierd. I found this with water immersion in the Name of the Lord. VOILA.hundreds of people come forward in 1 hour! (John said no one can have anything unless God gives it to him Jn3:27), Isaiah Saldivar is doing the same thing today>, http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAwakening209.

Consider how different Torbens Jesus is from the Jesus in the Scriptures. I would ask any of you to go back and read your posts and if you feel convicted that you were acting in your flesh, to repent and seek Gods forgiveness for doing so. Do you have any update on RDD recovery timing for Cryptopia? I believethat the authentic move of the Spirit of Jesus to come ( actually has already begun) will be outside the church meeting or conference halls, will be very unreligious, will be very normally and authentically human in every way ( except that it will be marked by outstanding and miraculous answers to prayer) , will be accomplished by very ordinary, imperfect , unpretentious and normal people who actually dispise and disdain the relogiosity, hyper spirituality, wierd or ostentatious behaviors of the nascent promoters of WIERDSVILLE . The Holy Spirit will prepare that soil ACCORDING to what works with that particular person. However I can understand the skepticism of people not about the miracles but the structure and functioning of christianity. Since all we have available to us is what is on the video, lets use that and test the spirit we see in the video. And even the weaker among us serve a purpose in testing the character of the stronger..oh my, yes, how we treat our weaker members tells a tale, thats for sure. Love you all in the LordLightning Storm, you sure do keep me on my toes. The prophet Isaiah said, arise and let your light shine.. 23:25). We walked out because we felt so oppressed.

Andrew, you and your followers are in huge trouble.

2000 years agp the worldly people called Yeshuas followers Christians. truly revolutionary but also very simple about getting back His ministry recently came under attack by the Danish government, which launched investigations by six different government agencies. What I find very disappointing is that when some of us want to engage in an honest discussion about this story, we are met with name calling and ridicule.

Simon Braker Thats what I said..manifesting His tangible Presence AND HIS NATURE. What I am understanding is that the right hand needs to forget what the left hand is doing, otherwise its a slippery slide away from simplicity down into spiritual harlotry, and turning the simple, holy things and gifts of God into a circus.

At that instant, I observed my friend was motioning me to come and join him in prayer for the woman who was sick. i would be interested in your comments on Isaiah Saldivar who has miracles happening on the streets, in his home and in church. Jesus so many times told those He had healed to tell no-one. step 4. WebTorben makes friends for himself and not for the Living Resurrected Lord of all. Those lost truths are now being progressively restored by teachers such as Sondergaard. In the book of Acts we see many situations of water immersions or baptism. None of them literally follow Matthew 28. Can we not stick to Gods word as the ultimate authority? The prophets of baal danced, shouted and cut themselves for hours in order to try and get fire down from Heaven to consume the sacrifice. Today, Torben has been in prison for over 250 days. So, we bought a ticket to America and two days later we packed our suitcases and we left with our kids to America.

Why cant people see this? It is just as deadly To handle Gods holy miraculous things with hands of flesh brought forth death not life. forward into the True thing. That is never proof of anything in Gods eyes. This was not the example of the early church. opposite ditch of Legalism and cynicism of anything supernatural. It is very glorifying to God to see His manifold wisdom displayed in manifold ways through His many people.

There is NO RECORD of what Jesus did SPECIFICALLY in those 40 days. a) to be troubled with cares Seeking these bizzare and esoteric psychotic manifestations AS SPIRITUAL AND SIGNS OF THE HOLY SPIRITS PRESENCE AND APPROVAL. ALL of which are used in the NEGATIVE. I do find it interesting how everyone attacks those trying to bring people into the knowledge of the truth.

Agreed Andrew.avoid those who 2Tim3v5,,,,have a form of godliness but deny the power.we need miracles and healings etc .and oh how we need discerning of spirits to get delivered from the power of darkness and lazy religious demons.. Jesus hasnt changed! I have actually known Torben personally for 5 or 6 years. Gods whole plan was to tabernacle with man, and yet the Hebrews wanted Moses to hear from God and they would do whatever God told Moses to tell them to do. intolerant, hate mongers, bigots, homophobes, etc.) We can learn from Torbens mistake by keeping our guards up at all times. We have to toss out the whole leg lengthening healing as I dont think God would use such a questionable healing in order to show His might to the world. Just because there are counterfeits, is no reason to deny when God does something. are called to go out and minister in the same, whether it is videoed or not! We warn our children not to do things with their safety in mind but we dont call in fearmongering! Have any of these things happened since you made the original post? People can either answer yes I do what The Lord tells me to do , or then whatever they say , whatever it may sound like , they are really saying no I do not do everything The Lord tells me to do. Torben and his family have appealed to the U.S. government for political asylum, testifying in a sworn affidavit that if he is returned to Denmark, he risks being imprisoned and having his daughter removed from his family. eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . this is new age worship of another false Jesus, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pvdl8HDmkA. Then they interviewed a state church priest talking about how we were the evil people coming as a predator to the weak animals who were sick and eat them, and how we wanted to take people into the cult. Let us not forget Mathew 7:22-23, which everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring. But there are some who do have shortened legs and corresponding back problems. Just a thought, Ive had several dreams that we ran into the forest before the evil people arrived My sister had dream that, I have CB as well but still not sure of their long term stability. Buying drugs is literally like buying candy now. Even the BABES HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. Dont let him do it to you. Lol Jesus will outshine all when His servants take their proper place in the kingdom. No I dont regret calling it a sad reaction.

So this relates to the videos because not always doing what The Lord says is the same as not always listening to what He says. Doing the REAL thing is NOT a prim and proper church serviceit is messy..take a look at the demonic deliverances in the NT. They came to the US and applied for asylumin the early 2019.On June 30, 2022 Torben was asked to attend an interview withU.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to discuss his immigration status in Orlando. The simplicity, the sincerity & humbleness is so refreshing to see. Ezekiel 10, 11, and 12 were recently given to me by God, and your, Bittrex US is closing its doors by April 30. The world will always recognize Jesus when He is given right of way in His people. Going beyond the person to see what the Lord is doing in & through them. Sadly, Torben chose to include the oldest parlor trick in the book, making someones supposedly shorter leg grow longer.

And was that not also SLANDER? This I did. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. S. Renee Felder The 5-minute video below shares more details about the infiltration and persecution of Torben Sondergaards ministry.

Michelle R Sondergaard, Michelle Cabada Juan, Michelle R Cabana and Michelle R Cabada are some of Pastor Trben maintains he gave the answer (same one that all healing evangelists give): dont stop your medication (until your doctor has verified your healing).

This is not a one time event this is continuous. Those who are baptized have the ability to live completely above sin. And immediately her flow of blood stopped. Yet when he went back up the mountain, God said to Moses, you write the law, you want it, and so while Moses was writing the law, God was telling him about His Son and grace. There were plenty of opportunities for this to be mentioned in the New Testament, but we never see it happening. Sorry, but Torben is so real and sincere.. Revelation shows that, in the end, people will curse God because of the plagues yet still refuse to repent. Peter Koenig J. Why did God allow Korban to include the scammers an fakes favorite trick as part of this video? I got screwed over, good luck guys prophetic investment is not for me, most of the time it opposite of, Error message comes up when I attempted to access it, Exactly!! We are to give witness to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, that He is alive in us doing the same works and even greater works. Father glorify Thy Holy Son in Thy people in this generation ! JeffM, I never called anyone a liar, nor did I say these people werent healed. James Bailey is a blogger, business owner, husband and father of two grown children. Andrew, why do you attack the truth in the age of deception? 430 talking about this. This is nothing but human sorcery at its worst . Alan Macleod Jesus said greater works than these shall you do! In 2012, he founded Z3news.com to broadcast the message of salvation by reporting end time news before it happens. Praise the Lord! I am relying on the tweets from the liquidator . the 3rd sign is being fufilled. WebTorben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. Arrested NOT for Gun Smuggling, but for no-visa & fake Asylum - to be deported to Denmark. Exd 4:6 KJV And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. My friend told me a lot of JPJs prophecies have come to pass.

He believes that the Holy Spirit, acting through him, can heal people. This video does a VERY poor job showing that these people are doing. etc, support Bob Jones. I still have a lot on my heart regarding TLR, the kickstarts, etc. He feels the solitude of the leper`s loneliness & It is a flow of the Living Waters of the Spirit Himself when our SELF/FLESH BOWS DOWN AND SURRENDERS. Note cobinhood.com is now down. For we can do nothing of ourselves, only God. Torben Sndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. Jesus wants us to come to him now!! I said, You got him? to New Testament Christianity. Jesus healed in the synagogue too. Our steps are to grow brighter and brighter. They would not exercise faith and do works of the Spirit to glorify God, but rather prevent unbelievers from entering in. Oh and Moses staff turned into a snake. Theres a schism in the church; those who believe Acts was for that time only, and those who believe that the empowerment that happened in Acts is for the churchs lifetime until He returns. The Holy Spirit IS THE GIFTwho MANIFESTS healing, prophecy, words of wisdom, etc etc etc.

Because that which is of God is not weird but is HOLY. God will move you along as fast as your faith will allow. Where was the encouragement to `know Him more?`, I hope that as you read that misinformation that you will realise that it is not pointing us to our precious Lord, but just a confusing For an overview of his case and earlier updates, please visit friendsoftorben.com. Both of these ditches are equally dangerous.

Joseph Mercola Is God feeling ambivalent about those healings when He led Korban to record them? The bogus so called leg lengthening trick pulled off by the magicians is THE COPYCAT -never the other way around. Seymour didnt preach that night. He senses the tragedy of a disabled body, whether through lameness, deafness, blindness or dumbness. Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, Earlier this year I felt the Lord placed it on my heart to investigate Bill Johnson , I started with what Bethel expressed as what they believe I dont see anything wrong with the statement of what they believe which I posted previously on this thread, I then listened to a number of Bill Johnsons sermons (videos) on YouTube they were all recent I tried to listen to as recent as I could, He honoured the Lord Jesus He honoured knowing the Lord Jesus He honoured the Lord Jesus words I am not saying that I agreed 100% with every single thing I heard him share but he definitely believes that Jesus is God and is Man always was God and always will be God, I am judging him by his own confession and his own confession of surrender to the Lord Jesus and he has committed himself to the Lord Jesus and is living to honour him I could tell this through the spirit of what he was sharing in his sermons, In the sermons I watched on YouTube which were at Bethel, Redding there was prayer for the sick where people gathered around those who were sick and prayed for them I didnt see anything weird or suspect or new age or whatever in any of these YouTube videos this was happening in their services praying for the sick and people were expressing that they were healed , Bill Johnson is going after healing He is taking seriously Jesus words, Heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons and is wanting his life and the life of his local congregation to demonstrate this, I never heard him call himself a prophet or a healer or anything else for that matter, He came across to me as a very humble man who knew the Lord personally, had surrendered himself to Him and wanted to serve and please Him, I was blessed by many of the things which I heard him share and know that he is my brother is Christ, Does that mean that hes never made a mistake in his life? Why are not all of us down at our local shopping malls praying for people? Isnt it true that we all usually cease arguing and just start being in awe and amazement and gratitude and joy when Jesus walks in us and does His wonderful works in us? To Torben, I would say that if what you are doing is of the Lord, you dont need to go around tooting your own horn about it. Fewer religious spirits to break through maybe? I conclude by re-stating that it is 100% biblical to test the spirits and those who want to engage in name calling are not willing to honestly test what they are seeing. Pastor James Durham

Or, would he just rebuke the illness, and be on to the next person? I really liked the video. Hopefully he will be allowed to stay. My thoughts are this, it is absolutely a wonderful thing and most important to see this taking place in the world in which we live.

This is just my personal belief and not only will we do all that God commands us, but His very Glory will go before us. We need to cry out every day to God and say Lord I want more and He loves to hear us say this. Yes, I do, but when I say I try to, that means in my mind that I realize that there will be times I will fail. The healer used the leg pulling method I felt fire through my legs and into my lower back. If someone cant just agree that that is what we do as we follow Jesus then they must be going their own way. I can be a `big picture,` person & I so appreciate those who labour in daily life with family, difficulties, work etc & try to help where I can & pray, for we are all on this journey together. I went to a conference of Rick Joyners where women with extremely long hair writhed on the floor like serpents (these women were allowed on stage). There is even scripture that says some were casting out demons, and the disciples wanted it stopped yet Yeshua says that they who were for them were not against them and to leave them alone. Everything is closed down.. We dont consider Him to have been of weak faith.

To accredit the winsome and wonderful man Christ Jesus with convulsions, animal noises, crears, hundreds of people acting completely out of control, jerking , wild shaking, out of control mocking laughter- to attribute these to Jesus is blasphemy and just plain stupid! Christs Kingdom is under the control of Jesus and all who are in it obey Him. Today, Torben has been in prison for over 250 days. WebTorben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. Further, He personally commissioned them to perform these miracles. A bad tree CAN NOT bear good fruit nor can a good tree bear bad fruit. He comprehends the sorrow of a bereaved soul. Our government allows tens of millions to enter illegally while rejecting many Christians who have had legitimate legal requests for asylum. Such a sad time. Seymour had approached a man with a wooden leg and asked, What did you come here for? The man replied, I want you to pray for my leg. Tim Price In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. There may have been those that didnt respond in love and in a true biblical manner to honestly test the spirits, but to generalize anyone who didnt believe the video as true biblical healing as a cynic was wrong to do. healings and miracles, etc. Finally a few good religious folk got ahold of him, and told him he couldnt do that. New Eastern Outlook Im glad you brought this up Barry, because the scriptures overwhelmingly tell us that Gods ways are set apart from those of the enemy. Could you ever imagine Jesus holding up a persons legs, showing the legs to be different sizes? That is the way the Pharisees operated with Jesus. How can anyone with a sound mind say that In Jesus and the apostles day their miracles were accompanied by this nascent WIERDSVILLE? His reply? making who dont know the first thing about him. Rather than deal with this in a respectable and honest manner, all that happens is people resort to name calling, ridicule, and saying that just because multitudes of people believe it, therefore it must be true. Other christians have told me I cant discern what is true and what is wrong, and that what I received that wonderful day of salvation is not of God. No wonder so many are being home, When I saw The US Dollar will no longer be the World Reserve Currency on several different websites and articles, If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15 So simple, yet, many of us cant seem to obey Him., Hi PN Great Post, VERY IMFORMATIVE! All companies are still active. Andrew JH thankyou for that good news update . That is a very big issue, in my view. Kids have serious peer pressure nowadays. However, I dont perceive any self motivation from Torben. In Jesus name we pray ! WebTorben Sondergaard calling from jail: GUILTY. If you dont believe that Bill Johnson is in Gods family what should your response to him be? He healed people SOMETIMES He spoke to them of repentance OFTEN not. One day, when he was 16, his mother had a stroke. I will post a few excerpts from the book Your Power In The Holy Spirit by John G Lake, who I personally believe was a man used mightily by God to advance His Kingdom in the early 1900s. JeffM, I believe you misintrepeted my comment about obeying God. He and his work are counterfeit. Last point, going back to the Pharisees, it seems to me that Jesus said that sins against the Son of Man would be forgiven but that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit wouldnt be. Joshua Giles, 2022-2029: A Jubilee perspective on End Times, PART II: BEAST TECHNOLOGY IN THE GROCERY MARKETS ETC, Dr Judy Mikovits: COVID vaccine will kill 50 million Americans., PART I: BEAST TECHNOLOGY IN THE GROCERY MARKETS, Americas Leaders Reject Our Only Hope at National Day of Prayer Service, Terra Classic, Shina Inu, and Bone Shibaswap: Prophetic dreams and visions, Obama Provides FEMA Camps for the Safety of Christians, TD Hales Dreams Tell the Future of America, David Taylor: Russian Attack on America is Coming, George Washingtons Prophecy of the Coming Invasion of America.

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